I'm very concerned that so many children have all of the sudden been listed on this site with full identification. I'm worried about security and think that it would be most prudent to remove these children from the site. Our site is publicly accessible by anybody. (I've actually called Steve Hargadon but he's not accessible (enjoying a well earned Thanksgiving Break.)) Please remove these children from this site.


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I agree.

Another evidence of the power of a learning community. We're watching things. Watching means looking with caring eyes, as in watching over. Not the Big Brother kind of watching.

Wish we could extend the caring more readily into other parts of society. Perhaps "caring grouping," "caring networking," is the baseline sustenance for positive futures.
Classroom 2.0 " A caring community!"
Though most users are teachers, the network is presented as a "social networking site for those interested in Web 2.0 and collaborative technologies in education.". Kids may enroll on the basis of this introduction. If kids are not expected to join, this should be made clear in the words of introduction.

You cannot really ban any kid by default if you leave the introduction as it is (this would be abuse of authority). Best would be to take contact with ning managers and propose them to hide the personal profile for anybody under 18 (or whatever).
It is also possible to consider having ning restrict or remove the features that let us easily join the networks of friends for any member under a given age. Precautions should be taken high up and the rules shown to the kids at the time they register.
It sounds to me like these kids were directed here by their teacher to look around and signed up "for fun". I don't know of any kids who would want to join into conversations here, I may be wrong but don't expect them to be flocking here in droves! :)

Good point.
I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of them were from my middle school charter school. The students are very involved in educational philosophy discussions and helping to plan what goes on with the school and their learning. They also belong to a ning or two, with parent disclosure, permission, and teacher-assigned passwords; some have also been invited into Gifted Education 2.0 discussions, a network I started.

If they were my students (I just got finished looking over the networks to which all my students belong, but I don't know if CR2.0 will show up if they've been deleted), I'd like to know if they were just signed in, were discussing, or if they were being inappropriate.

If they weren't my students, I'd like to ask--if a student wants to discuss these topics and is able to do so, albeit from their perspective, how "2.0" of us to ask them to "shut up and leave the smarter adults alone?"

tsk, tsk.

Students (and parents) deserve to be a part of the conversation as well, if they are able and willing! Or are we discussing topics not appropriate for their ears/eyes? What are we worried about? Seriously.
Wow, i completely missed this over Thanksgiving.

Can someone fill in the whole story? What kids, how many, was there some disruption? What "call" did Steve make? What did Ning do?

I'm very against any policy to blanket ban anyone based on age. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason for banning should be behavior within Classroom 2.0.

So what's the story?
If you read back a page, apparently some kids (not sure of age) showed up here and as far as I can see, based on reports here, that they were giving "full disclosure" which to me means they gave first and last name, age, hometown, etc.

Of course I do have some issue with that, but I'm not sure it's a deletable offense. But is deleting the same as banning. Banning in Ning is a SERIOUS thing--it deletes their account totally, doesn't it? Steve made the call to delete their accounts (I think). I cannot fault Steve for his choice--he's never given me any reason to be questioning of his motives, so there must be something to it that I'm not seeing.

I wonder if their behavior was inappropriate in conversations or photos, or somewhere else.
Yeah, i kind of pieced that much together - but it still leaves a lot of questions in my mind. You've asked some of them.

I don't want to jump to conclusions or jump down Steve's throat without the whole story.

Steve, what's the rest of the story?
If you go to my page (just click on my picture) and scroll down to the comment area, you'll see a note from the teacher involved. He was the one who actually created accounts for them, with their full names, pictures, and the school they were from. They were very young, and none of them had actually contributed any content to the site--since they hadn't actually signed themselves up. The teacher just misunderstood what the site was for.

All 20 or so showed up at the same time, and it just didn't feel right. If the students had been involved in the discussions, I think I might have given some thought as to an action to take other than "banning" them, but there was no indication of who their teacher was and we had some understandably nervous folks emailing me about the situation.

I'm certainly willing to explore alternative responses to this kind of a situation, since it's likely to come up again in some format and the record of the discussion will surely be helpful to someone. I also need to check and see if "un-banning" someone brings their content back...
ah good. the "rest of the story."

ok, makes sense, but I will tell you that sometimes my kids come with me...but I'll always take full responsibility for anything they do or say in this type of environment.

I'm behind you on this and don't mean to put you on the spot.



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