Safety Concerns - Classroom 2.02024-03-29T08:54:00Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:79049?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A80111&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi
I wanted to clarify my op…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:825042007-11-29T15:43:59.712ZSue Palmerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/TheMaze
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I wanted to clarify my opinion on this. I am all for conversation and inclusion of students. I have launched my own learning community site at <a href="http://www.masterymaze.com">www.masterymaze.com</a> where teachers and students are welcome to discuss topics together. I invite all to participate. I do ask however that students "minors" have user names for safety purposes. if someone wanted to use a real name and picture I would want parental consent to do so. Conversation and safety can…
Hi<br />
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I wanted to clarify my opinion on this. I am all for conversation and inclusion of students. I have launched my own learning community site at <a href="http://www.masterymaze.com">www.masterymaze.com</a> where teachers and students are welcome to discuss topics together. I invite all to participate. I do ask however that students "minors" have user names for safety purposes. if someone wanted to use a real name and picture I would want parental consent to do so. Conversation and safety can both be achieved with some minimal precautions. I was concerned because the pics were of elem kids and I was afraid it was some type of mistake.<br />
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I believe that we can learn best if we are both involved in the process. That is my approach to teaching. I ask for feedback and incorporate it into what I do. I am doing my best to jump into the students world and use methods which reach them. My students will be in the forums soon on my site and we will begin a dialogue. All are welcome! My blog contains info relevant to both groups-- and my podcasts are designed and available for use by both teachers and students! It's a community! At the same time I will do my best to keep them safe.<br />
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Interesting discussion.<br />
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Thanks.<br />
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Sue P aka The Maze Thanks for posting updates la…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:824902007-11-29T14:55:22.292ZScott Swansonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ScottSwanson
Thanks for posting updates later in this thread that clarify for those of us who were not around to see the original issue. Clearly the ripple effect of this incident is showing how concerned people are on many fronts, because my reaction was as much to things posted about this thread in other threads as it was the comments already in the thread (though I made sure to read those before posting).<br />
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Certainly my concerns have been mollified that we haven't gone censorship-crazy here, and I hope…
Thanks for posting updates later in this thread that clarify for those of us who were not around to see the original issue. Clearly the ripple effect of this incident is showing how concerned people are on many fronts, because my reaction was as much to things posted about this thread in other threads as it was the comments already in the thread (though I made sure to read those before posting).<br />
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Certainly my concerns have been mollified that we haven't gone censorship-crazy here, and I hope others who shared that concern are also duly mollified. Well, that makes sense. This…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823392007-11-29T04:11:55.050ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Well, that makes sense. This was just a mistake that you fixed.<br />
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I don't mind putting you on the spot because i know that you will always respond with openess.;-)
Well, that makes sense. This was just a mistake that you fixed.<br />
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I don't mind putting you on the spot because i know that you will always respond with openess.;-) ah good. the "rest of the sto…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823342007-11-29T04:07:22.365ZGinger Lewmanhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/GingerTPLC
ah good. the "rest of the story."<br />
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ok, makes sense, but I will tell you that sometimes my kids come with me...but I'll always take full responsibility for anything they do or say in this type of environment.<br />
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I'm behind you on this and don't mean to put you on the spot.
ah good. the "rest of the story."<br />
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ok, makes sense, but I will tell you that sometimes my kids come with me...but I'll always take full responsibility for anything they do or say in this type of environment.<br />
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I'm behind you on this and don't mean to put you on the spot. If you go to my page (just cl…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823312007-11-29T04:00:53.492ZSteve Hargadonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SteveHargadon
If you go to my page (just click on my picture) and scroll down to the comment area, you'll see a note from the teacher involved. He was the one who actually created accounts for them, with their full names, pictures, and the school they were from. They were very young, and none of them had actually contributed any content to the site--since they hadn't actually signed themselves up. The teacher just misunderstood what the site was for.<br />
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All 20 or so showed up at the same time, and it just…
If you go to my page (just click on my picture) and scroll down to the comment area, you'll see a note from the teacher involved. He was the one who actually created accounts for them, with their full names, pictures, and the school they were from. They were very young, and none of them had actually contributed any content to the site--since they hadn't actually signed themselves up. The teacher just misunderstood what the site was for.<br />
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All 20 or so showed up at the same time, and it just didn't feel right. If the students had been involved in the discussions, I think I might have given some thought as to an action to take other than "banning" them, but there was no indication of who their teacher was and we had some understandably nervous folks emailing me about the situation.<br />
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I'm certainly willing to explore alternative responses to this kind of a situation, since it's likely to come up again in some format and the record of the discussion will surely be helpful to someone. I also need to check and see if "un-banning" someone brings their content back... Yeah, i kind of pieced that m…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823302007-11-29T04:00:53.150ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Yeah, i kind of pieced that much together - but it still leaves a lot of questions in my mind. You've asked some of them.<br />
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I don't want to jump to conclusions or jump down Steve's throat without the whole story.<br />
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Steve, what's the rest of the story?
Yeah, i kind of pieced that much together - but it still leaves a lot of questions in my mind. You've asked some of them.<br />
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I don't want to jump to conclusions or jump down Steve's throat without the whole story.<br />
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Steve, what's the rest of the story? If you read back a page, appa…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823242007-11-29T03:49:28.639ZGinger Lewmanhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/GingerTPLC
If you read back a page, apparently some kids (not sure of age) showed up here and as far as I can see, based on reports here, that they were giving "full disclosure" which to me means they gave first and last name, age, hometown, etc.<br />
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Of course I do have some issue with that, but I'm not sure it's a deletable offense. But is deleting the same as banning. Banning in Ning is a SERIOUS thing--it deletes their account totally, doesn't it? Steve made the call to delete their accounts (I think). I…
If you read back a page, apparently some kids (not sure of age) showed up here and as far as I can see, based on reports here, that they were giving "full disclosure" which to me means they gave first and last name, age, hometown, etc.<br />
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Of course I do have some issue with that, but I'm not sure it's a deletable offense. But is deleting the same as banning. Banning in Ning is a SERIOUS thing--it deletes their account totally, doesn't it? Steve made the call to delete their accounts (I think). I cannot fault Steve for his choice--he's never given me any reason to be questioning of his motives, so there must be something to it that I'm not seeing.<br />
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I wonder if their behavior was inappropriate in conversations or photos, or somewhere else. Wow, i completely missed this…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823182007-11-29T03:40:33.211ZSylvia Martinezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/smartinez
Wow, i completely missed this over Thanksgiving.<br />
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Can someone fill in the whole story? What kids, how many, was there some disruption? What "call" did Steve make? What did Ning do?<br />
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I'm very against any policy to blanket ban anyone based on age. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason for banning should be behavior within Classroom 2.0.<br />
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So what's the story?
Wow, i completely missed this over Thanksgiving.<br />
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Can someone fill in the whole story? What kids, how many, was there some disruption? What "call" did Steve make? What did Ning do?<br />
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I'm very against any policy to blanket ban anyone based on age. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason for banning should be behavior within Classroom 2.0.<br />
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So what's the story? I wouldn't be surprised if a…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-29:649749:Comment:823022007-11-29T03:01:38.255ZGinger Lewmanhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/GingerTPLC
I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of them were from my middle school charter school. The students are very involved in educational philosophy discussions and helping to plan what goes on with the school and their learning. They also belong to a ning or two, with parent disclosure, permission, and teacher-assigned passwords; some have also been invited into Gifted Education 2.0 discussions, a network I started.<br />
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If they were my students (I just got finished looking over the networks to which…
I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of them were from my middle school charter school. The students are very involved in educational philosophy discussions and helping to plan what goes on with the school and their learning. They also belong to a ning or two, with parent disclosure, permission, and teacher-assigned passwords; some have also been invited into Gifted Education 2.0 discussions, a network I started.<br />
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If they were my students (I just got finished looking over the networks to which all my students belong, but I don't know if CR2.0 will show up if they've been deleted), I'd like to know if they were just signed in, were discussing, or if they were being inappropriate.<br />
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If they weren't my students, I'd like to ask--if a student wants to discuss these topics and is able to do so, albeit from their perspective, how "2.0" of us to ask them to "shut up and leave the smarter adults alone?"<br />
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tsk, tsk.<br />
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Students (and parents) deserve to be a part of the conversation as well, if they are able and willing! Or are we discussing topics not appropriate for their ears/eyes? What are we worried about? Seriously. Steve:
Define "young student…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-11-28:649749:Comment:819902007-11-28T21:13:02.286ZScott Swansonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/ScottSwanson
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Define "young students." I assume you mean "6". What would you think of Guy, the 16yo you met at K12OMC? Every single one of my students, IMHO, should be welcome to be here and contribute. If that's not the case, I would be severely concerned about why we are here. Personally, I would have been posting here long before I was 18, had it been around. Would I have been excluded for "privacy concerns"? Should Arthus? Should others like him?<br />
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If so, what does that say about us -- that we are…
Steve:<br />
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Define "young students." I assume you mean "6". What would you think of Guy, the 16yo you met at K12OMC? Every single one of my students, IMHO, should be welcome to be here and contribute. If that's not the case, I would be severely concerned about why we are here. Personally, I would have been posting here long before I was 18, had it been around. Would I have been excluded for "privacy concerns"? Should Arthus? Should others like him?<br />
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If so, what does that say about us -- that we are going to turn a blind eye and ear to the constituents themselves in the name of protecting them? To protect them from their own voice? That sounds suspiciously like the kinds of logic that has been used to silence communities in the past....