Steve gets mad at Miguel--fair, or not? - Classroom 2.02024-03-29T00:38:50Zhttps://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/649749:Topic:7603?commentId=649749%3AComment%3A7798&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHmm...I think you're setting…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-30:649749:Comment:97582007-04-30T22:06:06.729ZMiguel Guhlinhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/mguhlin
Hmm...I think you're setting up a straw man to fight with the whole discussion of Ning vs Blogs. In my original post, I stated I just didn't get it. Ning posts don't excite me in the same way blogging does. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so...I don't "get" great art, either!<br />
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Steve, I did find your accusation that I was posting my blog address simply to garner hits, well, offensive. I try to sign all my emails and comment posts everywhere--Ning, blogs, whatever--with my web address. It's…
Hmm...I think you're setting up a straw man to fight with the whole discussion of Ning vs Blogs. In my original post, I stated I just didn't get it. Ning posts don't excite me in the same way blogging does. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so...I don't "get" great art, either!<br />
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Steve, I did find your accusation that I was posting my blog address simply to garner hits, well, offensive. I try to sign all my emails and comment posts everywhere--Ning, blogs, whatever--with my web address. It's like a business card. That remark was unworthy of the conversation.<br />
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I also do not see myself as "old-guard" edublogger...two years is old? Sheesh. You want that, go talk to the venerable Stephen Downes. I'm just someone who's blogging with over 3000 entries. I wrote all of those for me, and some people found them worth reading and commenting on. Yes, I enjoy people reading but I'm not advertising or making money off of it...as Carole said, it's navel gazing when you count your hits. But who really cares? I mean, I don't spend hours writing because a few hundred subscribers are going to read it. I spend that time because I enjoy blogging...not social networking.<br />
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The heart of blogging is narrating the learning journey each of us goes on. Conversations happen along the way that are purposeful, reflective. I find it silly for anyone, to cast me as a "prominent edu-blogger," setting me up on a pedestal. Of what use is that?<br />
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The reality is that we'll each choose the tools that connect with our preferred way of interacting with others and the world. For now--as I've said earlier--that isn't Ning for me...I don't get the same satisfaction out of "ninging" as I do blogging.<br />
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It's not about being "old" guard, or new, but about how the Read/Write Web allows us to publish at will.<br />
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BTW, you can listen to some conversation on this subject at WorldBridges' EdTechTalk with Jeff Lebow.<br />
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Unashamed and unabashed,<br />
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Miguel Guhlin<br />
Around the Corner-MGuhlin.net<br />
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P.S. Drop by if you want to have an "old-fashioned" conversation via a blog. Vickie - we can subscribe to…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-30:649749:Comment:97292007-04-30T20:05:00.209ZDurffhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/mrsdurff
Vickie - we can subscribe to these comments via RSS. Saves me time.
Vickie - we can subscribe to these comments via RSS. Saves me time. Oh, forget them. I thought it…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-30:649749:Comment:97272007-04-30T20:01:48.270ZDurffhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/mrsdurff
Oh, forget them. I thought it was Dembo anyway, not Guhlin. Shows how much I was paying attention. I have made some new friends here & though I can't see why they would ask me, am glad to share what I know. One young lady (you're all young at my age) has gotten a long list of us to Skype a class she will be holding. Where else can you find resources like that? So forget those digital immigrants who don't get it, they will in hindsight. Maybe I'm not old guard enough....
Oh, forget them. I thought it was Dembo anyway, not Guhlin. Shows how much I was paying attention. I have made some new friends here & though I can't see why they would ask me, am glad to share what I know. One young lady (you're all young at my age) has gotten a long list of us to Skype a class she will be holding. Where else can you find resources like that? So forget those digital immigrants who don't get it, they will in hindsight. Maybe I'm not old guard enough.... The internet is evolving as i…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-30:649749:Comment:96482007-04-30T16:51:30.543ZVicki Davishttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/coolcatteacher
The internet is evolving as is the blogosphere. I for one, think that blogs are going to become less separate entities and more embedded as part of an overall "network" that allows many such things as ning does. The technorati advocates will be bothered because this overturns the blogosphere applecart many have worked so hard in for years, however, I believe it is going to change. It is important to participate in conversation, and the motivations of many will become very clear if they don't…
The internet is evolving as is the blogosphere. I for one, think that blogs are going to become less separate entities and more embedded as part of an overall "network" that allows many such things as ning does. The technorati advocates will be bothered because this overturns the blogosphere applecart many have worked so hard in for years, however, I believe it is going to change. It is important to participate in conversation, and the motivations of many will become very clear if they don't want to engage in other conversations elsewhere. I do wish that ning somehow registered as a comment with my CC comment because I pretty much "lose" the posting unless I go to my ning. And I echo will richardson that it would be easier to check out the profiles of users over here. (I"m going to have to "recheck" all of my friends! It is interesting how I first…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-29:649749:Comment:89902007-04-29T14:43:50.012ZJose Rodriguezhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/jrodriguez
It is interesting how I first got a link to Classroom 2.0 from Miguel's Blog. I guess all publicity is good, even when it isn't all positive. I've had a difficult time understanding how I can use Classroom 2.0 to further my edtech development. I created a profile. Looked for others that had the same interests and waited. I understand the notion of content creation but there really isn't a lot of content here that I haven't already encountered in the edublogosphere. I have a feeling I would feel…
It is interesting how I first got a link to Classroom 2.0 from Miguel's Blog. I guess all publicity is good, even when it isn't all positive. I've had a difficult time understanding how I can use Classroom 2.0 to further my edtech development. I created a profile. Looked for others that had the same interests and waited. I understand the notion of content creation but there really isn't a lot of content here that I haven't already encountered in the edublogosphere. I have a feeling I would feel the same way even as a newcomer to Web 2.0. I had an expectation and it just isn't here. Steve -- Go with the passion.…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-28:649749:Comment:86412007-04-28T03:14:45.587ZBud Hunthttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/budtheteacher
Steve -- Go with the passion. For what it's worth, I agree with you. I think Ning could be a better tool -- but I also think it is meeting a need for those who need the scaffolding. And that's good. I wish I could better keep up with all the activity here. The upshot of Ning is that, while it's a little inconvenient for me and the way I work, it's accomplishing the goal of putting more voices into the mix. I like it.
Steve -- Go with the passion. For what it's worth, I agree with you. I think Ning could be a better tool -- but I also think it is meeting a need for those who need the scaffolding. And that's good. I wish I could better keep up with all the activity here. The upshot of Ning is that, while it's a little inconvenient for me and the way I work, it's accomplishing the goal of putting more voices into the mix. I like it. Fascinating imagery. I like i…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-27:649749:Comment:85612007-04-27T20:51:31.686ZSteve Hargadonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/SteveHargadon
Fascinating imagery. I like it a lot.
Fascinating imagery. I like it a lot. I agree with the notion that…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-27:649749:Comment:85432007-04-27T19:34:39.458ZJohn Tannerhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/REMC39
I agree with the notion that we need multiple approaches in the 2.0 world. It isn't either/or here but it does touch on the chaos you feel before systemic change takes root. So it is a bit of a chaotic 2.0 world but it will clean itself out. To me blogs are accumulated narratives of our lives, for example it would be my story on what restaurants I like, and how me and my friends chose one, then how we travelled there, what it looked like and all the things that surround that life story. Ning is…
I agree with the notion that we need multiple approaches in the 2.0 world. It isn't either/or here but it does touch on the chaos you feel before systemic change takes root. So it is a bit of a chaotic 2.0 world but it will clean itself out. To me blogs are accumulated narratives of our lives, for example it would be my story on what restaurants I like, and how me and my friends chose one, then how we travelled there, what it looked like and all the things that surround that life story. Ning is the conversations we have when we sit down to eat. Wow!! I have been blogging fo…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-27:649749:Comment:83702007-04-27T03:15:33.162ZAndrew Passhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/passandr
Wow!! I have been blogging for almost a year and am proud of the readership that I have attained. I've attracted this readership by commenting on other peoples' blogs. I do think there's a real purpose of the blogosphere, which is not fulfilled in a constrained social network site. When I write in my blog I want everybody to be able to read it not just people who are part of a social community. But at the same time, I've never seen such a heated exchange in the open blogosphere. Open…
Wow!! I have been blogging for almost a year and am proud of the readership that I have attained. I've attracted this readership by commenting on other peoples' blogs. I do think there's a real purpose of the blogosphere, which is not fulfilled in a constrained social network site. When I write in my blog I want everybody to be able to read it not just people who are part of a social community. But at the same time, I've never seen such a heated exchange in the open blogosphere. Open blogosphere exchanges tend to become dirty and messy. This one seems to have remained civil. Perhaps that's because it's taking place in a constrained community. There's room for both.<br />
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OK, I readily admit, I'm including my blog address because I want to drive traffic to my blog. On a social network site like this people aren't as concerned about driving traffic. I know what you are talking a…tag:www.classroom20.com,2007-04-26:649749:Comment:82622007-04-26T16:14:25.452ZKelly Christophersonhttps://www.classroom20.com/profile/kellywc
I know what you are talking about. It's the ability to add things that the rights side of the brain likes. That is why I like Edublogs so much. I can add and customize as I want. Now, with Zing, all the "add-ons" are static and I really don't want to spend time hacking around. That's kind of why I like my blogging experience so much. The different blogs I see give me so many different ideas. thanks for the reply.
I know what you are talking about. It's the ability to add things that the rights side of the brain likes. That is why I like Edublogs so much. I can add and customize as I want. Now, with Zing, all the "add-ons" are static and I really don't want to spend time hacking around. That's kind of why I like my blogging experience so much. The different blogs I see give me so many different ideas. thanks for the reply.