Ramifications of open access to Ning by students.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hargadon on November 21, 2008 at 6:57am

Hi, Neil!

So, are you asking not about the student use of the Ning networks you have created, but about them creating their own Ning networks separate from schoolwork?

If so, I'm guessing you've had some specific experiences, and I'm curious as to what they are and how they relate specifically to Ning (knowing that I do consulting work for Ning and so my interest is in helping as much as I can). And is their use of Ning networks outside of school-related work different than their other non-school Web activity?

I'm also wondering: Does the medium somehow promote "not so nice?" Is "not so nice" just more visible for some reason--are students linking to their personal networks from the school network? Is there possibly a valuable training opportunity here?

This might also be a good discussion at http://education.ning.com/.

Take care,

Steve

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Permalink Reply by Neil Charlet on November 21, 2008 at 7:20am

Thanks for the reply Steve.
I'm not as concerned about the student use of the teacher created ning because I think the teacher would be responsible for the management of the ning and it's content and they can address issues that come up related to their class ning.
My concern is around the student creation of a ning that is non-ed related and separate from their school work. I dont have any specific instances right now because many of our students are unaware of what Ning is. Since it's an unfiltered site, I can see students take advantage of the freedom to post whatever comments, video, pics that they please.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hargadon on November 21, 2008 at 7:29am

And is that any different than their ability to do so on MySpace or other sites? I guess I'm wondering if this isn't already something that is possible in the many social networks and Web 2.0 sites that students have available to them outside of school, and if it's possible to see this in another light: that one of the benefits of your use of good social networking practice in education is an opportunity to be training them in their decision-making about what they create or post.

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Permalink Reply by Jodie on November 21, 2008 at 10:50am

I think he is saying that MySpace, etc are blocked at school but Ning is open. I think his question is " What about kids creating and accessing social "non-educational" ning sites during the school hours?"

I agree about the teaching benefits, but there is a con also. 90% of students will follow the guidelines on posting appropriate items but you will have a few that abuse it.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hargadon on November 21, 2008 at 11:01am

Good clarification. Depending on the filtering, I guess, you could just allow access to the specific networks that are allowed. (You also have to open to http//api.ning.com for images, as I recall.)__I'll be interested to hear from educators who are actually using Ning in the classroom to get feedback on acceptable use guidelines and enforcement.

What I meant to communicate was a more general ability to teach about the use of the user-contributed Web when using social networking in education. I think there are some compelling pedagogical reasons for using appropriate social networking tools themselves, *and* I also think that since 80%+ of older students are doing social networking outside of schools, we should be seeking for ways to discuss appropriate use--otherwise they are learning behaviors based on the norms of particular networks, rather than the norms of caring adults. :)

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Permalink Reply by Steve Hargadon on November 21, 2008 at 7:02am

I see you were way ahead of me!

http://education.ning.com/forum/topics/ramifications-of-open-access

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